Based on your experiences with people in your life, do you think that people can change? How many chances do you usually give a person who has wronged you or lied to you before you stop believing them when they say they'll be different?
I agree entirely. It takes a lot of time and energy to change, just wanting to be better and do better isn't enough. You have to be committed to it and actively think about why it's important that you do. Most people just don't want to put in that kind of effort, not when it's so easy to stick to your old habits. Personally, I've had to make a lot of changes just in the past few weeks. Had to think about who was really important to me and why I needed to keep being around for them. It's exhausting, but it's better than nothing.Hmmm... thats realy too broad a question to answer easy.
Do I think ppl can change? Yes. Do I think its easy for ppl to change? NO. Do I think most ppl want to change? NO. Have I seen many ppl who changed? NO.
Yes, and look how he ended up. Maybe he shuld have take care to tie up loose ends vith his enemies, instead of forgiving them. Maybe he wuld still be alive.“Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names.” -John F. Kennedy.
If you don't mind, I'm going to teach you some history. Not because I think you don't know it, but because I think it might illuminate you as to why I appreciate that quote from a dead man.Yes, and look how he ended up. Maybe he shuld have take care to tie up loose ends vith his enemies, instead of forgiving them. Maybe he wuld still be alive.
Sorry Nil, but thats one thing I'l never understand. "Forgiving your enemies". I dont do that. It may take days, it may take months, or years, but eventualy I get even, vith anyone who wronged or hurt me.
I hope you dont think Oswald acted alone on that. He vas just the trigger-man, carrying out a hit. And no, I dont think his motives wer political. He vas hired (or maybe forced, coerced, who knows) to do it by certain interests that didnt want to see the changes Kennedy wanted to introduce. I wont go in-to that debate, since thats a whole diferent issue, and it has to do vith globalist banker elite and the NWO. And I dont want the topic to shift. Lets just say, I belive that if Kennedy digged deeper, and conected a few more dots then he did, the interests I'm talking about wuld never have got a chance to take him down, he wuld have taken them down first. And the world today wuld be a much beter place, as a rezult.JFK was assassinated by a complete nobody (Lee Harvey Oswald) he knew nothing about. A person he never knew killed him in a random act of unwarranted violence, can't exactly blame forgiveness for that. He was in an inherently risky profession (leading a country), it happens. Take a stance on anything, and someone will wish you dead.
Disagree. It brings closure, and a peace of mind. And I speak from personal expirience.The truth is... Revenge gets you nothing. Revenge does not build an empire. Revenge does not bring back the dead.
And thats how professional-victims are created. That is how passive-agression begins. That is how one becomes neutered, and dis-inclined to take care of one-self. That is why so many ppl today are frustrated, over some long-past wrong they never set right. Sure, your strong. In your own head, self-deluding yorself, thinking you hold some "moral high ground" vhile who-ever wronged you is laughing at you, and preparing to fuck you over agen, because they now know they can, and you wont do anithing about it. No thanx.It takes a strong man, a kind man, of conviction and worthiness, to forgive someone who has wronged them and not pursue revenge.
So long as you never hurt an innocent, we'll remain on temperate terms.But, that atitude is no more, or less, then I expected to hear from you, given vhat I know about you. So its ok. Just another point we are polar oposed on. By all means, if "forgive and move on" works for you, good on you. It dont work for me. I belive in the good old eye-for-an-eye. Always worked for me.
If both people in a ring decide to duke it out, it's not my place to tell them otherwise. I might even watch. Hell, I'm of the opinion that it's not the government's job to tell people what to think or how to feel in general--whether that's doing hard drugs or prostitution or two people consenting to kicking the shit out of each other.That depends. Do you include stuff that hapens in a ring as "hurting innocents" or not? Most of you leftist bleeding-heart types got a problem vith it, so I'm just curious.
Tend to prefer a "line in the sand" approach myself. There is a certain level of stupidity I will tolerate over a given period of time. Cross over that threshold and then I will reciprocate accordingly to make it cease. Self-defense is acceptable reasoning, given appropriate circumstance.Thats not how it works. They wont leave you alone, they'l just get bolder. Provocation is always best replyed in kind.